i love math

[roach]

picked up the new cd Tuesday, and I like it.

I love math is a couple guys from deathray daives, who are also the drummers for apples in stereo and the paperchase, and the drummer for Old 97s is their drummer.

here are a couple covers that didn't make it on the album.
http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/dc9/200 ... d_cove.php

and the band.
http://www.myspace.com/iloveilovemath

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbeBdvVf3fs[/youtube]

[Dogatron]

I like it. I already know I'm gonna have that tune in my head all night.

[katie]

i love math, too!

[roach]

i love booze.

[monet2u]

i love booze.

boozelovers.com

[katie]

at muddy waters.

[mr_j]

that record is good; i like it a lot, and not just because i got quoted in the PR campaign and one-sheet.

[Dalya]

i saw them by accident at barley house last night. they were bad. bad. seriously.

a) all of their songs sound the same
b) they had 3 guitars and a tambourine. 3 guitars. i know the bassist is out of town or whatever, but it still sounded shitty.
c) generic nice voice, blah lyrics.
d) the singer needs to cut his i-hate-my-stepdaddy-because-he-read-my-diary bangs.
e) whats the point of writing music you cant dance or do anything with except sit there and act like a hipster? they are such boring performers, they just stood there, except for the tubby guy on the tambourine. he moved his arm and head slightly.

i think everyone just gets excited about them (and the old 97s and the paper chase and all of that vom) because its the only pseudo-culture in the dallas area. also rhett miller played. i don't like him, but he's at least not unpleasant. and at least he moved his hips slightly. but i was drunker at that point so who knows.

also, i love math played AGAIN after rhett and the guitarist (1 of 3) heard me say "UGH THEY'RE PLAYING AGAIN?!" and then i felt sorta bad. but as soon as they actually played i didnt feel bad anymore. if they dont want me to make fun of them, they should be good.

[/tirade]

[roach]

you do know that the paperchase and old 97s are kind of a big deal out of the city also? do you just not like them because they are just a local band or because people here like them?

three guitars sounds a little crazy, they usually just have one. the show was just put together on tuesday for our friend mel who is moving to nyc sunday. kinda cool that everyone came out to play for her. kinda sucks my 4 week bender finally caught up with me... blah.

[Dalya]

seriously every single song they played reminded me of another song. it all sounded like mid-90s acoustic pop bullshit. not one song sounded new or interesting to me, it just sounded like background music that i had heard 100 times before. maybe they didn't play their best songs or whatever, but i also saw them several years ago and got whatever album was out at the time (in 2004 or 2005 maybe?) and it was the same thing then.

ok fine, i take back saying they're bad and i'll just say they're not good. they're just boring. it's like... unnecessary. i feel like bands like that are only successful because there is nothing better going on in music right now, but thats not a good enough reason.

sorry if i'm insulting you, i'm not meaning to. i'm just pissed in general that soooooo much boring blah music is out there right now and there is not a single band i'm excited about. whine whine, i know. pretty soon i'm gonna have to turn to french rap music or something like that.

[katie]

i haven't seen them live, but i heard the cd 3 times at barley the other night and thought it was fucking great. i think most anything sounds the same when you're hearing it for the first time, because bands have a style and at least most whole albums will fall under that particular style. and i bet there are a number of shitty boy band performers or stupid slutty untalented girl singers who can sit on the stage and sing and have the whole place explode - doesn't speak to their talent, necessarily, just goes to show how into the performer the particular audience is. and the old 97's are fun as hell, for the record.

and as someone from outside dallas coming into the area with no real expectations, dallas has a lot more culture than you give it credit for. in the past four weeks, i've seen several bands, several sporting events, art shows, independent films, taking some art/design classes, dance classes, going to and working a theater -- stuff that i'd never have seen in boston because i didn't know where to look (except the theater, really). maybe you need a better tour guide.

[mr_j]

dal, you know that's john from deathray davies' band, right? seem to recall you being a big DRD fan....

[roach]

seriously every single song they played reminded me of another song. it all sounded like mid-90s acoustic pop bullshit. not one song sounded new or interesting to me, it just sounded like background music that i had heard 100 times before. maybe they didn't play their best songs or whatever, but i also saw them several years ago and got whatever album was out at the time (in 2004 or 2005 maybe?) and it was the same thing then.

ok fine, i take back saying they're bad and i'll just say they're not good. they're just boring. it's like... unnecessary. i feel like bands like that are only successful because there is nothing better going on in music right now, but thats not a good enough reason.

sorry if i'm insulting you, i'm not meaning to. i'm just pissed in general that soooooo much boring blah music is out there right now and there is not a single band i'm excited about. whine whine, i know. pretty soon i'm gonna have to turn to french rap music or something like that.

no offense, but to call something unnecessary is a little over dramatic I think. music is not a necessity(of coarse some people think it is and if they can't create they stab themselves in the heart or something). if it bores you it bores you, I'm ok with that. some of those critical darling types bore me, some don't. music like my beloved-ish house music bores the fuck out of a lot of people, they say it all sounds the same, but it doesn't to me. take a band like creed, we can all bash for being shit blah blah. it's obviously moving someone out there, and if it moves them then fine. i'll call them a douche or whatever, but it really doesn't make them a douche, just means they are different from me and require something I don't in their music.
and if you are expecting something new and exciting from a guy on a stool and a drummer with only a couple drums in his kit I think you maybe disappointed a lot. if you do find something then let us know. I like I love math, I like their fun lyrics, I like their simplicity/stripped-down-ness and similarity to drd(the band that is the reason I got into I love math) and I like that each song is like a fun little ride in my head. but I could just be old and not need everything I will like to be on the cutting edge. it's ok to need your boundaries pushed, it's great when you can find someone/thing who/that does, but not everyone has the same boundries. I need my comics to talk about fisting babies to get me really into them, for example.

[Dalya]

dal, you know that's john from deathray davies' band, right? seem to recall you being a big DRD fan....

yeah for a while. they're fun but not much substance. so i lost interest.

dallas has a lot of stuff to do, but very little unique culture. most of the culture in dallas revolves around consumerism (restaurants, shopping). i like dallas, and i like living here. if i dont go to new york i proabably won't leave dallas. but it's not a creative center... dallas can be fun, but its pretty static. there isnt a unique, new style of music or art being developed here. once youve been to all the museums and been to the cool bars and seen the local bands and done all the dallas-y things (baseball, rodeo, 6th floor museum, etc.) there's not much left. that's fine--it can still be fun to live here, but its not conducive to creativity. and i feel like that makes people lower their expectations of what a good performer should be like.

[Dalya]

i agree with you roach. that's what i mean. i don't care about i love math, and i wouldn't make as big of a deal about bands like that if there was something i liked at the moment. i like some music just because it sounds good or its catchy or whatever and there really is nothing special about it. what bothers me, really, is that people are so enthusiastic about the old 97s and company and i'm like... to me, those bands are the equivalent of a job. the way they perform, it's like it's just a fun job to them. they don't even seem to love music, at least not their own. they just perform and maybe dance and smile a little but there is no passion. and that is like the exact opposite of what music should be, at least to me. what is the point of passionless art? and if they are of the opinion that their music isn't art, then why are they spending their life doing something they're not truly passionate about?

that's why the spree suck now. tim seems like he just wants to take a nap with his kids in a hammock. he doesn't look like he remotely cares anymore and it comes through in the music. when a musician cares, its moving. there is a big difference between jimi hendrix and someone who just happens to be a really fucking talented guitar player. jimi played like he would die if he didn't. obviously not everybody can be marc bolan or jimi hendrix, but the problem is that i have to wade through all the passionless crap to try and find someone who DOES give a shit and i haven't been able to find anyone really since the 1st arcade fire album.

records are different, a boring but nice album is fine, whatever. you can listen to it in your care when youre not really paying attn. but to see someone perform live who doesn't give a crap is just pointless to me, at least right now. a show should be a release of emotion, of any kind. there should be SOMETHING.

anyway, this is obviously idealistic and whatever. i almost quoted Nietzsche in this but refrained. and im sure i'll feel differently when i'm older. so.... ok.