did anyone watch it? I was shocked. I don't think Kinky did that well, although the other candidates looked like idiots when all they did was chastize him for saying the word "negro" instead of responding to the fact that the murder rate in houston has gone up 20%. Grandma came off like an idiot. All she did was smile and keep repeating her campaign speaches that were obviously rehearsed. She didn't do as well as I thought she would. And Bell did a lot better than I thought, especially towards the end. He attacked the other candidates too much instead of talking about himself, in my opinion. But he loosened up and sounded intelligent and like an actual human being, as opposed to perry who i think we can all agree should rot in the hell of his choice.
i'm sort of torn between bell and kinky at this point... I thought he'd get a bit more serious at this point and leave the one-liners out of the debate, but he didn't... dissapointed me.
opinions?
if you didnt see it, i'm sure you can listen to the debate at npr.com the dallas station is KERA, you might have to go to their website.
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Bell: Would anyone really miss me if I weren't here?
Kinky: I have no opinions, feasible sollutions, or plans for the future. But damn I look good holding an unlit cigar.
Strayhorn: I am a Texan running on behalf of all the Texans in Texas. I love Texas and its Texans. I think our Texans are the best Texans in Texas. I'm taking the politicians out of Texas, because I'm a good Texas Texan. This grandma wants to shake Austin up. Texas.
Perry: Adios, mofos.
Viewers: Who wants to move to South Dakota?
Kinky: I have no opinions, feasible sollutions, or plans for the future. But damn I look good holding an unlit cigar.
Strayhorn: I am a Texan running on behalf of all the Texans in Texas. I love Texas and its Texans. I think our Texans are the best Texans in Texas. I'm taking the politicians out of Texas, because I'm a good Texas Texan. This grandma wants to shake Austin up. Texas.
Perry: Adios, mofos.
Viewers: Who wants to move to South Dakota?
Due to the economy, I had to let my signature go.
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Oops, I just posted in the Kinky at UTD thread about this.
I need to read up more on Chris Bell, but as of right now, he's the lead candidate in my head.
If it was someone in the Belo organization's evil plan to expose how unprepared Kinky is to take on the role of governor, it worked. He just kept spewing one-liners, but didn't have much substance -- and because so many people pointed out inaccuracies in his speeches -- and because he said the Internet is the devil's playground or something and he never checks it -- I just don't trust him. They did harp on his "negro" comments, but his satire of racists didn't come off as too satirical when he couldn't even name a black Texan working on his campaign. I know he's not about political correctness, but that doesn't mean he gets to be irresponsible.
Grandma is a mess.
Perry is a smug sumbitch.
I was pulling for Kinky, but now I don't know.
- Mere "Chris Bell looks like Dr. Drew" 1975
I need to read up more on Chris Bell, but as of right now, he's the lead candidate in my head.
If it was someone in the Belo organization's evil plan to expose how unprepared Kinky is to take on the role of governor, it worked. He just kept spewing one-liners, but didn't have much substance -- and because so many people pointed out inaccuracies in his speeches -- and because he said the Internet is the devil's playground or something and he never checks it -- I just don't trust him. They did harp on his "negro" comments, but his satire of racists didn't come off as too satirical when he couldn't even name a black Texan working on his campaign. I know he's not about political correctness, but that doesn't mean he gets to be irresponsible.
Grandma is a mess.
Perry is a smug sumbitch.
I was pulling for Kinky, but now I don't know.
- Mere "Chris Bell looks like Dr. Drew" 1975
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If you want to watch itif you didnt see it, i'm sure you can listen to the debate at npr.com the dallas station is KERA, you might have to go to their website.
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OK, having watched that, I'm really convinced I did the right thing by moving. Here are my thoughts:
Chris Bell - He seemed to be the most together of the candidates, but I wonder just how much he can actually get done. More on this in a bit.
Kinky Friedman - When he wasn't stuttering or making off-colour remarks, he acutally said some things that sounded good-ish, at least in getting some things accomplished. How feasable any of his ideas are remains to be explained as far as I'm concerned.
Rick Perry - He didn't really say much of anything. He just delivered style, and gayness. Not that there's anything wrong with that...but he's gayer than Christmas. One of my good friends from University is his PA, so I've heard the stories...
Whoever the old woman was - she said nothing. Nothing at all. She spouted out the same old drivel that I'd forgotten about it American politics. The constant repeating of the word Texans is annoying. I know we're proud and all, but come on.
It's too bad that's the only debate; that format was kinda weak. It's obviously to protect the incumbent, because quite frankly, he's about as good at debate as his predecessor.
I didn't like any of their answers on immigration. I think that's something you'll find that you'll have to let them in because you just can't stop them. It's the same here in the UK; my area is now quite full up with Polish and Croatian and Lithuanian immigrants. They can come here and work because they're now part of the EU and they can, because they can make a better life for themselves. Of course there are people all upset about it, because they're taking jobs from the English, but the truth is, they're not. There are very qualified people doing jobs so far below their capabilities and doing them well. And these jobs they're doing, the British people don't want to do. And they're not sending the money back home either; they're contributing to the economy. Statisitically, there are very few on benefits.
Where I'm going with this is that if workers from Mexico can sneak into the states, pick some oranges or whatever for a week, and sneak back, they're going to. But if they had the opportunity to stay, they probably would. If they had the opportunity to do the right thing, I think they would. And imagine the tax boom, because all of a sudden the workforce would be legal, and the tax burden would be more evenly distributed. And think of all the new authentic Mexican places that would open...awesome.
Now here's why it doesn't really matter. Texas History 101: The Texas government is set up to where the Lieutenant Governor has the majority of the power, because he presides over the legislative branch. It's that post that decides what and what doesn't get discussed on the legislative floor and what the laws are. The Governor is really just a figurehead, and they can rally their troops to get certain things talked about, but the real meat and potatoes lies elsewhere.
And furthermore, if all of these businesses get their taxes raised, they will leave the state for one that will give them tax breaks. Or Mexico where they can hire a work force for 1/10th of the price. But more than likely another state.
Crime in Houston? I just read a report that had Houston listed as the fifth safest large city in the US....Dallas being the most crime-ridden (not a surprise).
Chris Bell - He seemed to be the most together of the candidates, but I wonder just how much he can actually get done. More on this in a bit.
Kinky Friedman - When he wasn't stuttering or making off-colour remarks, he acutally said some things that sounded good-ish, at least in getting some things accomplished. How feasable any of his ideas are remains to be explained as far as I'm concerned.
Rick Perry - He didn't really say much of anything. He just delivered style, and gayness. Not that there's anything wrong with that...but he's gayer than Christmas. One of my good friends from University is his PA, so I've heard the stories...
Whoever the old woman was - she said nothing. Nothing at all. She spouted out the same old drivel that I'd forgotten about it American politics. The constant repeating of the word Texans is annoying. I know we're proud and all, but come on.
It's too bad that's the only debate; that format was kinda weak. It's obviously to protect the incumbent, because quite frankly, he's about as good at debate as his predecessor.
I didn't like any of their answers on immigration. I think that's something you'll find that you'll have to let them in because you just can't stop them. It's the same here in the UK; my area is now quite full up with Polish and Croatian and Lithuanian immigrants. They can come here and work because they're now part of the EU and they can, because they can make a better life for themselves. Of course there are people all upset about it, because they're taking jobs from the English, but the truth is, they're not. There are very qualified people doing jobs so far below their capabilities and doing them well. And these jobs they're doing, the British people don't want to do. And they're not sending the money back home either; they're contributing to the economy. Statisitically, there are very few on benefits.
Where I'm going with this is that if workers from Mexico can sneak into the states, pick some oranges or whatever for a week, and sneak back, they're going to. But if they had the opportunity to stay, they probably would. If they had the opportunity to do the right thing, I think they would. And imagine the tax boom, because all of a sudden the workforce would be legal, and the tax burden would be more evenly distributed. And think of all the new authentic Mexican places that would open...awesome.
Now here's why it doesn't really matter. Texas History 101: The Texas government is set up to where the Lieutenant Governor has the majority of the power, because he presides over the legislative branch. It's that post that decides what and what doesn't get discussed on the legislative floor and what the laws are. The Governor is really just a figurehead, and they can rally their troops to get certain things talked about, but the real meat and potatoes lies elsewhere.
And furthermore, if all of these businesses get their taxes raised, they will leave the state for one that will give them tax breaks. Or Mexico where they can hire a work force for 1/10th of the price. But more than likely another state.
Crime in Houston? I just read a report that had Houston listed as the fifth safest large city in the US....Dallas being the most crime-ridden (not a surprise).
i agree with many of you. kinky was so completely unprepared. he seemed to be full of one liners but beyond that had nothing to say. he and his campaign are exhausted and are running on fumes.
if only chris bell had more name recognition and a little more money so he could actually run a commercial or two to get his ideas out to the public.
if only chris bell had more name recognition and a little more money so he could actually run a commercial or two to get his ideas out to the public.
The latest poll has all challengers gaining ground on Perry. What is amazing, to me anyway, is that Grandma came up 3 pts and is still ahead of Kinky. I know he struggled at times, but the consensus seems to be that she was a distant 4th place.
10/10/06:
19% - Bell
34% - Perry
18% - Friedman
21% - Strayhorn
10/03/06:
15% - Bell
38% - Perry
14% - Friedman
18% - Strayhorn
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10/10/06:
19% - Bell
34% - Perry
18% - Friedman
21% - Strayhorn
10/03/06:
15% - Bell
38% - Perry
14% - Friedman
18% - Strayhorn
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kinky won't win. he was a joke candidate from the beginning. he talked a good game, but, really, he was just saying what people wanted to hear, and adding things people wouldn't *expect* from a candidate from governor, and banking on that. ultimately, though, his chances are nil. he's done a right good job of shooting himself in the foot, ya know?
If the governor actually had power in Texas, I'd be worried. All of those candidates suck in some respect, even Chris Bell. Not that he doesn't put up a good debate (he does), but it's just his stance on making businesses pay more tax...they'll leave for some state that doesn't make them pay it. All of their answers for border patrol were just idiotic. Perhaps it's just because I live somewhere where the immigrants from Eastern Europe have flooded in and actually contribute to the economy, but if you want to keep them in Mexico, you have to give them a reason to stay there. $30-$40 a day for picking oranges and transferred to pesos is an amazing wage. You can toughen up everything but it's still going to be worth it for them to try.
I, too, was extremely disappointed with Kinky. I do think he has thought most things through but his delivery is just terrible, and delivery matters. I'm just glad none of them are running for Lieutenant Governor, for reasons I've stated elsewhere.
I, too, was extremely disappointed with Kinky. I do think he has thought most things through but his delivery is just terrible, and delivery matters. I'm just glad none of them are running for Lieutenant Governor, for reasons I've stated elsewhere.
any national citizen who feels threatened that their job is going to be taken away by an immigrant who comes into the country with nothing, has no qualifications and can't speak the language must be a bit a loser themself
It's the same here in the UK; my area is now quite full up with Polish and Croatian and Lithuanian immigrants. They can come here and work because they're now part of the EU and they can, because they can make a better life for themselves. Of course there are people all upset about it, because they're taking jobs from the English, but the truth is, they're not. There are very qualified people doing jobs so far below their capabilities and doing them well. And these jobs they're doing, the British people don't want to do.
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